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Gay NZ raises abolishing Citizens Initiated Referenda
What about New Zealand's wider future, though, beyond our own communities and their legislative needs? I have a few ideas for additional intermediate reforms to New Zealand's political structures, including the abolition of the Citizens Initiated Referenda Act 1993 and the establishment of a written constitution for New Zealand to safeguard our human rights and civil liberties.
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I wouldn't worry too much about this Lucyna.
ReplyDeleteMost gays, like many other New Zealanders, probably wouldn't know a citizens initiated referenda if one bit them where it hurts.
This website is just a website, an online publication. I don't think it has any official or representative status.
Of course the columnist is extremely stupid in thinking the US might turn into some Christian theocracy. And nothing said about Islam and how it is hanging and killing gays as we speak.
After all, while Christians just want to stop gays from getting married, Islamists want to stop gays from breathing.
Indeed, it was our own NZ Islamic Liarbour MP Ashaf Choudry tha supported the stoning of gays because it was in the Koran!
Of course, posts like yours can be seen a 'anti-gay' but I would rather the right reach out not criticise this community.
The interests of gays are best served by right-of-centre 'conservatism' that recognises individual freedoms. This is something I have blogged about over at No Minister.
The enemy of gays is not the Christian Church, but Islam and this is something gays are realising in mainland Europe as they are increasingly attacked by the muslim immigrants their socialist government let into their countries.
And this is why gays over there are turning to right-wing anti-immigrant parties. Their freedoms and indeed their lives depend on it.
FFM, the gay lobby also is very interested in introducing 'hate speech' legislation here in NZ. They're just a bit quiet on that front right now. However, it's already happened in Canada, and now it's being used to stifle Mary Steyn and the Catholic Church.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention that same sex marriage creates a more powerful state.
And there won't be much protection for anyone in right-wing anti-immigrant parties, as the problem runs far deeper.
Fair comment Lucyna.
ReplyDeleteIt's just that the gay people I have come across in work, life, etc, tend to be quite apolitical and no more ideology motivated than anyone else.
I see no 'gay lobby' other than Rainbow Liarbour.
Yes, there seems some sympathy toward leftist view as that is seen by some still as more 'pro-gay'. An overhang from the old days when to be gay was a crime.
But those views are changing as the battles of the last century have been won.
And certainly in Europe gays see where the threats are now- from Islam not Christianity.
What needs to change is the leadership of the of the gay 'community' if such a 'community' exists as people now seem more individualistic and no longer think en masse.
What sins by an unrepresentative leadership are now being carried out in their name?
But the aim for conservatives should be to win gay people over. Encourage gays to see the benefits of freedom and free thinking of the right, and gays would see hate speech legislation, for example, as unnecessary.
They would see that the 'hate' does not come from the right, but rather the Islamists, who are backed by the left.
BTW While trying to see how I could respond to the columnist, I was heartened to see stories on the site about gay excutions from Islamic countries, so hopefully the message of Islam's evil is getting across, even if some 'gay writers' remain in the past with their soft-left liberalism.
FFM, that seems to be the way with a lot of fringe activism. Societal changes are pushed by a tiny minority that say they represent a large group that are just swept along by what the activists are doing. Meanwhile, the activists and those that support the long term changes begin proposed, know exactly what they are doing.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with a written constitution is--who would write it? The thing would turn out to be a PC fluffball, given the current climate in NZ. Such a thing could also prove to be a two-edged sword in the hands of activist judges.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there's a model that has served the world's most powerful, most successful country for a couple of hundred years, but the chances of us getting something similar are close to zero.
I agree, KG. A written constitution would be a scary proposition in today's climate.
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